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oh my rA9, it's robojesus. ([personal profile] saviorexe) wrote2018-09-04 06:13 pm

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strove: (dinosaur sausage sounds ... sad ...)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-14 12:59 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly, we were due for it. Something big to blow up. From the look of it, Gaby hadn't intended this outcome.

By "due for it," I mean we all come from different walks of life and it appears that a lot of us don't have the coping mechanisms to deal with any of this. Not that anyone should.

Plus, when challenged, someone who's emotional will often double down.


[Another lesson she learned primarily from dealing with Bellamy.]
strove: (millennials made a SECRET CULT)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-16 06:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think the better solution is to not argue with the parties trying to do this every time. We know who's often at the center of these rather public blow ups. If other people got the message instead of engaging, the situation wouldn't be exacerbated.
strove: (i could let bellamy borrow my pants)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-16 06:40 am (UTC)(link)
Do you think Matches and Hafid would get as much traction if people kept arguing with them? It adds fuel to the fire.

[Best to name them.]
strove: (huff huff huff let's bring it in)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-16 06:56 am (UTC)(link)
I barely know either of them, and both of the times I've spoken to them haven't gone well. It's very easy to argue with them. I thought Hafid had the potential to be reasonable at first, but he doesn't seem to understand diplomacy. He blames that inability on other people.

[It's a fact that she only seemed to make sense of later.]

I'm not saying everyone else is at fault for arguing with them. But I don't see how we can make them more self-aware.

Look at it this way. People may think poorly of us. If they do, then that's on them. All we can do is do better moving forward. We're headed in the right direction. We need to build on that. We're just beginning to truly understand this world. The scale of the problems ahead of us. Maybe we look like fools. But a lot among our numbers are still young. Around my age. And they don't have the experiences I have.

As it comes to Matches and Hafid, right now I think the best we can hope for is that we don't give them a reason to do worse.

If we build on that, I think we can build something for us here. At least temporarily. At least until we have answers.


[It's odd, but it feels like Markus wants to be the solution for Hafid and Matches, but that's not something he can do. All he can do is try to lead by example. Move everyone forward. It's also strange being the one telling Markus this, but ...

Well. Clarke is a leader, too. She's starting to truly see where her type of leading fits in here. It's subtler, but just as necessary.]
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strove: (vastly superior to link/zelda)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-16 07:43 am (UTC)(link)
I know I've spoken highly of your leadership before, but I used "we" there. We, as in you and me. We, as in our people.

[It's hard for her to explain. But this is Clarke pulling some of the burden off of him. No, she didn't do it publicly, didn't see a place for herself in that argument. She claims it now, though. This is her stepping up in her own way. Planning. Motivating. Delegating, at least to some degree.]

I have friends like Matches back home. Once, Bellamy was that friend.

Having someone like you to stand by him will be important. If you believe he can be better.

It's not on you to change him. In fact, it may be impossible for you to impact him in that way. But you can try to keep him from feeling like the world's against him. I'm not sure if that's even the case with him, but ... given my previous argument with him? I can guess.
strove: (did millennials kill DWRP?)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-16 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
I think you're conflating how people perceive what happened on that post with how you're going to handle Matches and Hafid. How people perceive our setup doesn't matter so long as we do better, and continue to improve. And if people think Matches and Hafid represent us as a whole, there's nothing you or I can do about that.

But I don't think that's the problem here.

Did Matches try to change your friendship? End it in some way? Should that be what I ask you about?


[That seems to be the thing everything keeps circling back to. Matches and Markus' friendship. Something happened. She doesn't know what.]
strove: (i have so very many flaws)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-17 04:59 am (UTC)(link)
All right. I don't want you to feel that you can't say your piece. That's important.

[And expressing stressors rather than writing them off as if they don't exist. It's easy to fall into that habit—which is a fact that Clarke knows all too well.

And then there's the bit with Matches. She told him once that he reminds her of Murphy. It's starting to sound like she was very, very spot on with that.]


Oddly enough, that bit tells me everything I'd ever need to know about Matches. He likely pushed you away because it's a way of protecting himself.

And I think in this case, he might think he has good reason to believe you'd choose Connor over him.

But you know all this already. It doesn't make it hurt less.
strove: (no - only jeff goldblum needs one)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-17 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
I realize who I'm saying this to, but—have you considered that you're approaching this far too logically?
strove: (teal was a much better aesthetic)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-17 07:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Again, I'm not Matches' biggest fan. But I am a big fan of yours, so keep that in mind.

He strikes me as the type to do what he feels is necessary to protect himself. That doesn't mean it makes sense or that it's rooted in any reality. Sometimes emotions just rule over any ability to really see what's going on. You telling me that it was never about a choice doesn't mean anything.

Hell, if he's stupid enough to think you'd give up on him that easily, after all the stupid stuff he's said on the network, then he's used to being second best.

You mediated, and he was cutting ties. Making it so the imaginary choice didn't exist in the first place.
strove: (I can make some frosting!)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-18 04:57 am (UTC)(link)
Just don't be surprised if he doesn't make it easy on you.
strove: (no - only jeff goldblum needs one)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-18 06:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not friends with everyone having a difficult time.

So, just you and Connor. He wasn't very interested in hearing what I had to say.
strove: (teal was a much better aesthetic)

[personal profile] strove 2019-01-18 06:54 pm (UTC)(link)
[She deliberates on how much detail to get into here.]

We don't see eye to eye on how to handle potential problems like Matches. I don't want to cause problems here, and I assume the two of you have already spoke of his intentions.

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